Lieux de drague !!!!

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le 06.06.2004 par leclubber

10 réponses / Dernière par Rastignac le 08.06.2004, 13h49

Pour celles et ceux qui veulent discuter et demander des conseils rencontres et séduction; comment faire avec cette fille ou ce mec; et plus généralement, comment pécho / trouver l'amour à l'ère du swipe left, notamment quand on est ni mannequin, ni un ninja de la drague.
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Messieurs chasseurs,

Ne faites pas l'erreur que j'ai fait pendant longtemps à savoir attendre le samedi soir pour draguer dans les bars et les boites. Comme le souligne "fastseduction", ces lieux d'encanaillement seraient peut être meme les moins bons :

- la plupart des filles viennent là (souvent accompagnées de copains d'ailleurs) pour se détendre et s'amuser. Elles ne viennent pas avec l'idée en tête de se maquer à tout prix.

- elles savent que ce sont les lieux ou elles sont le plus exposées et par conséquent, elles sont encore plus méfiantes qu'à la normale.

Il faut savoir qu'il y a quantité de filles qui ne vont pas à ses endroits pour diverses raisons :

- manque de temps
- manque d'argent
- trouvent que ce sont des endroits ou elles ne rencontreront pas des gens interressants
- n'aiment pas ces endroits tout simplement.

Mais où trouver la perle rare me direz vous?

Selon une étude publiée dans un journal :
- 30% des gens se rencontrent par l'intermédiaire d'amis en commun.
- 30% sur leur lieu de travail.
- 15% grace à des assoces ou à des activités communes.
...
-2% les agences matrimoniales (un peu pres pareil Internet et les speed dating)
-1% les boites

Donc avant, d'investir votre temps et votre argent dans les boites et bars, regardez attentivement votre réseau amical. Regardez si vos potes ont pas des amies à vous presenter. C'est quand meme un moyen rapide et facile de rencontrer des nanas (et en plus d'etre sur qu'elles ne sont sérieuses et pas à moitié cinglées.)

Ensuite voyez sur votre lieu de travail, s'il y a une fille libre. Sinon, essayez de voir si un ou une de vos collègues connait quelqu'un. Il en va de meme si vous etes au lycée.

Les activités comme le théatre ou la danse sont bien pour rencontrer un paquet de meufs. Si vous etes à la fac, n'hésitez pas à frequenter les assoces étudiantes. Au départ, j'étais sceptique mais on rencontre un paquet de gens!!!!

Sinon, un endroit bien pour draguer : le Parc. Plutot que de passer vos apres midi planté devant la télé, allez draguer du coté des parcs qui sont toujours pleins à craquer de filles par beau temps. Autre avantage : ça coute pas un rond et t'es pas obligé de raquer une conso comme dans un café.

En ce qui concerne les étudiants, parait que les bibliothèques sont un lieu idéal aussi mais j'ai jamais testé. Certains me disent que les centres commerciaux sont aussi un bon plan mais j'ai de serieux doutes.

Etes vous d'accord avec ce que je viens de vous dire?

Ou avez vous aussi de bonnes idées de lieux à nous faire partager?
Spéciales dédicaces :

- A Asles pour ses judicieux conseils et son soutien.
- A Steeve le grand PUA disparu on ne sait ou.
- A Rastignac, le fils naturel d'Alain Soral.
- A Sokkar pour m'avoir recu si gentillement à Orleans.
- A Trooper, pua discret, sympathique et talentueux.
- Au Paris PickupClub (Section Direct et Indirect)
- A tous ceux que j'ai oublié ... :)

http://parispickupclub.12.forumer.com/

pr la bibli a mon avis, faut le faire a l'occase et pas y aller exprès.

Sinon comme lieu ki sont pas mal y'a à mon avis les sal d'attente d médecins kan els sont pa tros pleines, les arrets de bus... tous les endroits où on attend en fait :D

Pendant un concert ca peut etre pas mal, ca fait deja un point commun :P

les fêtes entre potes aussi (genre 25 ds 10m² a boire dla despé :D)
je carricature un peu mais c un bon moyen pr connaitre du monde sans sprendre la tete :P

j'avais lu un truc la dessus en anglais, je vais essayer de le retrouver, justement dans un centre commercial ils donnaient de bons arguments

voila, je l'ai retrouve, bon c'est en anglais et tiré de fastseduction, mais bon pas trop difficile a comprendre ...


Where to meet girls

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(Taken from "Sweep women off their feet...":)

Shopping Malls. Try to remember the last time you went to a mall. Can you possibly look in a direction and not spot a beautiful girl that you would like to seduce? I'd venture a guess and say no.

The malls are always full of girls. Girls who work at various stores and shops within the mall, but also a lot of girls who go shopping or just hang out. Girls love shopping. Though it is harder to seduce a girl if she is surrounded by her friends, it is not always the case.

Walk up and down the halls and look inside stores for beautiful clerks or shoppers. If it is a women's clothing store or something feminine, even better. You can easily walk up to a girl (clerk or shopper) and ask her:

"Excuse me. Would you be so kind to hold this up in front of you for a moment? It's my sister's birthday next week and you are about the same size as her and from what I can tell you have the same excellent fashion sense."

Better yet, after the initial approach you can even ask her if she sees anything else that she really likes in the store that your sister might like too because of the similar tastes in fashion. Probe for keywords why she likes certain things over the others etc.

Once you have sufficient information of not only what she likes but also why she likes it you can start your charm. Expand the conversation to likes and dislikes in other areas of her life to get her view on things and so on. If she's a shopper you might want to act very quickly to finding ways for you to continue your conversation somewhere else, but if she works there she won't mind spending the time with you especially if it's not very busy.

Libraries. If there is one place that girls almost always outnumber guys, it has to be the library. Whether it's a public library or a college/university library, you will always find young girls trying to do research for a project or homework.

These girls are usually very intelligent and dedicated to their work, but the plain truth is the fact that everybody can use a break once in a while. If you provide a bit of a pleasant distraction they'll be more than happy to talk to you. You could be asking them for some help to locate a specific section or specialty book. Even if they can't help you out they will at least have to tell you that they don't know where you can find your book. But guess what? That is a conversation taking place right there. Ask them about their own work, interests, etc. Show interest, and let them talk about it for a while.

These girls like to show off their knowledge so they'll tell you more than you need to know about the subject. But if you develop good rapport at this stage you can easily continue this fascinating conversation elsewhere. Get my drift? You can start asking why they're interested in this particular subject, what's the most fascinating thing about it, what are the challenges and so on. Once you move to answering this type of questions then you will be able to get an insight as to what type of girl she is, what she holds dear and so on.

Gourmet Coffee Shops. Before work, at lunch and after work these places are packed with girls. Sometimes the more packed the place, the better because you may have to share a table with "someone". If it's not very busy you can still ask to sit next to a beautiful girl. Just tell her that you don't like to sit alone and if she'd mind you sitting with her till you're done with your drink.

If you're sitting together might as well talk about something. And remember this is a gourmet coffee shop. These girls don't come here for the coffee, they come here for the specialty coffee, and they come for the frills and sometimes even the prestige associated with a particular specialty coffee shop.

So what do you talk about?

Her favorite drink and why she likes it over regular coffee, how does it make her feel and so on. Try and talk in detail about the different sensations and aromas. Women love descriptive talk in detail especially if it involves something that can even be compared to a sexual sensation.

The whipped cream, the cherry on top, how the blend of the coffee with the different liqueurs reminds you of a hot and steamy Latin love dance stimulating your taste buds beyond comparison etc. I guess while you are at the library you can pick up some books on gourmet foods and specialty drinks to learn the language fine critics use to describe them. Believe me, talking like that can make a girl melt even though you're only talking about a specialty coffee, because you end up planting all these wonderful images in her mind by using metaphors.

Workplace or School/College. This is a more relaxed atmosphere for seducing women because you are not under time constraints. If you can't get her hotter than hot for you today, you can talk to her again tomorrow. You'll have much better opportunities to get to know her. In addition, if you work or study closely together for an extended period of time chances are that you will become attracted to each other anyway.

Personals. [A word of warning about personals - they will never get you the experience of actually approaching and getting the attention of the woman you want because a meeting arranged through personals simply skips this important phase. So although meeting women this way might feel easier initially, ultimately you will never learn the skills that really make the difference]

Is this too low for you? Is it beneath you? Hell no. Whether it's newspaper personals, telephone personals, video personals or Internet personals and chat rooms, they offer you excellent opportunities to meet a lot of women to practice your skills.

With the exception of video personals the drawback is the fact that you don't really know what the person looks like. But that's not a problem. It shouldn't be your goal to meet someone to seduce right away. This is nothing but an avenue for you to get practice and experience talking to women. But if things click for you why not go for it anyway? If she turns out to be butt ugly just tell her that as shallow as this seems, without the physical attraction things aren't going to go anywhere between you two and move on.

Now when placing these personals you can attract a whole lot of women with some catchy headline and be bothered with a lot of replies that get you nowhere wasting your time. Or you can be very specific and discriminating about who you are what you look like and what you're looking for. Feel free to include any characteristics they may find unappealing. This will eliminate a lot of women who might otherwise reply but the ones who do reply are more likely to end up somewhere because they already know what to expect from you and are willing to accept it.

Better yet, read a lot of the women's personals and try to model yours after them.

As an added dirty trick, you can place a personal as a woman seeking a man to get a lot of good ideas from other men who reply to it. Most of them will be really bad but once in a while there will be one that will catch your eye and curiosity. When you reply to a woman's personal ad try out these other ideas to see if they work. If they work, you learned something new. If they don't work, move on.

An example of a personals ad. ASF:

"Isn't attraction incredible? Imagine relaxing into strong arms holding you, feeling safe and appreciated and intimate, knowing you're exactly where you belong... I'm educated, successful, emotionally mature, and I know what I want. My work keeps me busy, but I make time for travel, dining out, music (very diverse tastes), and anything new and interesting. I'm tall, in great shape, with green eyes and dark wavy hair (picture available). Looking to meet a woman who's smart, honest, and loves to laugh. Now tell me all about you..."

A few more US-specific places and times to meet women. Speed Seduction newsletter, Ross Jeffries:

Restaurants with attached bars: These places are often great Tuesday to Thursday nights, around 6 - 8:30 PM. Especially upscale places, they cater to a professional crowd. Some VERY nice looking women looking to unwind after work. Also often these places serve as a meeting ground for women having bacheleorette parties.

Coffee houses: like Starbucks, Coffee Bean, Tea Leaf etc. Great from 8 - 10:30 AM every day of the week. After 9 AM you are more likely to get women who work in retail, outside sales like pharmaceutical reps, self-employed, students etc.

Supermarkets: M - F noon to around 1:30 PM as women on their lunch hours pop into buy things. Monday to Thursday 6 - 8:30 PM, Saturdays 10 AM to noon, same for Sundays.

Shopping malls: This is a no brainer. If they have a good food court and are near offices, then noon til 1:30 PM, M - F. Hit the food courts and forget most of the rest of the stores. Other good times: Tues - Thurs 6:30 - 8 PM and Sat afternoons.

Self-improvement seminars: Such seminars are LOADED to the gunwales with good-looking, SUGGESTIBLE women who are totally open to the type of themes discussed in any good Speed Seduction pattern. Same with most of the self-help gurus. Christ, ya don't even have to sign up. Just find out where they are being held, hang out in the lobby of the hotel and swoop in on the HB's during the coffee, pea and dinner breaks.

Gyms: The women are in awesome shape and usually quite adventurous.

Yoga Classes: Unbelievable amounts of hard-bodied, wildy well-shaped women. Take a beginners class if you've never done it before and you'll met lots of women, who are also VERY suggestible and open to "new ways" of thinking.

Johnny Shack (http://showgirls.com.au):
Sporting clubs and associations: "These areas are very good for meeting single women. You find out easily which women are single and you can talk with them easily because you have a similar interest. What could be easier? There is immediate conversation to talk about and its enough to get to know each other enough to work out: "Am I attracted to this person or not?"

Now the footy club [Australian football?] is maybe not the best place for hunting women but a netball club that has mixed competitions definitely is. Gymnasiums are good to. Women at gyms will talk to any guy that talks to them. Everything is on your side in these places because the woman knows you are in the same club and therefore will not automatically be rude to you. Also it gives them a harmless excuse to talk with you without people thinking any sleaziness is going on. They may be waiting for you to say something."

la séduction en centre commercial peut être un bon plan car il y a quelques point positifs qui sont les suivants.

Déjà si vous êtes un tant soit peu observateur vous verrez rapidement si une miss est seule ou accompagné dans sa vie (j'exclus bien entendu celle qui fait les courses ave son copain), surveillez un peu le contenu du caddie, par exemple la miss achete une demi baguette et non pas un pain :mrgreen: , soit elle est seule, soit elle ne mange pas de pain et seul son ami en consomme mais en général c'est plutôt le premier cas qui s'applique. regardez aussi par exemple les produit de beauté qu'elle va acheter, une fille seule fera plus de frais pour plaire.Meme chose si elle achete une boite de préservatif, soit elle est seule, soit elle est avec quelqu'un mais pas depuis longtemps et les fondations ne sont peut être pas aussi solide que cela.

En terme d'EC il faut savoir, c'est facile à remarquer d'ailleurs que pour elle un centre commercial c'est un peu un comme un musée, leur regard n'est que rarement fixe et balaye les allées en permanence donc si vous arrivez à le capter, ce qui est le but de l'EC en gros il est facile de passer à l'offensive et d'entamer une conversation en démarrant sur par exemple l'intéret de tel ou tel article, lui demandant un renseignement... ATTENTION évitez le rayon lingerie ça fait un peu pervers quand même :mrgreen:
AFC ou plus à vous de voir

En centre commercial on parle surtout de galleries marchandes y me semble...
Après si tu aimes aborder au rayon poissonerie c'est comme tu le sens! :)
Buzz, Mon âge bah devine... | RAFC à peu de choses près... :wink:

buzz666 a écrit :En centre commercial on parle surtout de galleries marchandes y me semble...
Après si tu aimes aborder au rayon poissonerie c'est comme tu le sens! :)
Pour info, dans la plupart des centres commerciaux le mail (gallerie) se trouve en sortie de caisse donc tu peux voir ce que contient le caddie de ta future victime (sauf si tu te balade avec un labrador et une canne blanche :mrgreen: ) enfin moi je dis ça comme ça.
Sinon pourquoi justement s'arreter au mail et ne pas chasser sur la surface de vente ça peut être sympa aussi et interessant, qui plus est dans la plupart des galleries marchande tu trouve un café donc à toi de la coinvaincre de sortir de la surface ou de la boutique pour aller boire un verre en face.
AFC ou plus à vous de voir

bah c'est ce qu'ils conseillent dans l'article: aller dans une boutique de fringues pour femmes et trouver un pretexte pour faire essayer des vetements a la victime

Ackboo a écrit :bah c'est ce qu'ils conseillent dans l'article: aller dans une boutique de fringues pour femmes et trouver un pretexte pour faire essayer des vetements a la victime
Effectivement, aller faire du shopping avec une fille c'est pas mal

R.
Rastignac - 27 ans - Paris

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