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Arrêtez de Vivre avec le mythe de l'Unique.Arrêtez de penser que des éclairs sortiront de ses yeux,arrêtez de penser que la première fois que vous la verrez le temps s'arrêtera...Toutes ces valeurs véhiculées par la société sont des pièges,qu'il vous faut éviter.

Il s'agit d'un travail de développement personnel qui ne s'opèrera surement pas en une nuit et il y a fort à parier que vous naviguerez encore entre les deux extremes avant de trouver le juste milieu qui vous permettra de vous epanouir.

A ce moment, si votre envie est de fonder une famille avec une fille bien, vous la trouverez et vous serez a-meme de gerer les hauts et les bas d'une relation longue. Vous aurez aussi le courage d'y mettre fin si celle-ci devient toxique.

Si vous vous voyez plutot celibataire et envisagez d'explorer la diversite des femmes et des etreintes vous vivrez cette vie sans avoir a recourir éternellement a du canned stuff et sans avoir l'impression de gruger vos partenaires d'un soir ou d'une semaine. Vous serez honnetes avec vous memes et vous serez étonnés de votre pouvoir de seduction.

Ne cherchez pas à impressionner les filles, cherchez juste à ce qu'elle se sentent bien avec vous.
Limitez votre game au minimum : la logistique : aborder, sympathiser, isoler
1-du reste du groupe
2-chez vous ou chez elle

A very interesting question where I only can relate to the Natural part, because im new to this "game/pick-up" universe, wich I stumbled upon a couple of months ago. I'll share my 2 cents on "being a Natural" from my experiences, wich is years spent hanging out with my friends (who always were natually good with girls), meeting and dating women, learning by trial and error.

First.. The obvious and a bit shallow difference to me is.. No techniques. No system. But most impornantly having an authentic expression of your self, which Is very igonred by many.
The Naturals i hung out with would interact with girls in a state of complete ease. It was never something they did, but something that was a huge part of who they already were. "Getting the girl" was also never the main foucus or purpose in life, she just stumbles in to your life unexpetedly at that moment (when you first lock eyes with her)

I remember asking these guys, “what did you say to her?“ "what did you say/do to get her intrested?".. the reply would always be a confused one... "What do you mean, I just went over talked, we flirted, look how adorable she is. I cant wait to fuck her”. I would literally follow these guys and many nights just watch them. What I quickly got was that they never have focus on outcome or a specific result. They were doing the only thing they knew how to do…express how they FEEL, unapologeticly. Non of us knew anything about pick up theory... they did not conceously understand and internalise anything to do with approach anxiety. They just expressed how they felt about girls.. to girls. Some of them were smooth, sexy.. chill. Others projected their love for women very direct and excitedly. There is no right and wrong..only how the specific individual felt.

Naturals IMO are comfortable and aligned with their inner beliefs, and the fact they love girls.. they approach them in an open and warm way, really letting the girl know how she has affected him. Whether she'll go home with him or not is totally irrelevant to how he feels, as he is already feeling great, because he is true to himself.

Is the Natural better than you or anybody else? I dont think so.. The only difference between hin and somone "learning pick-up" is, he is in full alignment with himself and his current mood, emotional/physical state (whatever it might be) and he chooses to show this, not repress.
The Natural never focuses on outcome except for saying whats on his mind at the moment. He does not give a flying fuck about anyone elses opinion of him. He is internally validated by his own self-image. Always Having in mind that he was given a penis for a reason as a tool for delivering his sexual desire for women, in the form of a gift. :DHe does not think about when/where to approach women, he just does that. He flirts with them and hits on them as a gift. (to quote my friend) “i want it, they want it.. whats the big deal”
Because of how the alignment with his inner self his sexual presence is like a magnet.

PS. IMO its not a question between PUA vs Narual or beeing a Narual or not. Everybody can become a Natural.. How? By when approaching not trying to get the chick to like you, or hope that she will fuck you.
Be shamelssly obvious with the fact you are hitting on her, and with the fact you are into her (but only in the situations when its a girl that gets your dick hard just by eyecontact).. either verbaly or non verbaly, it usually does not matter. Just do whatever makes you feel more sexually driven by her and in alignment with who you are and what you stand for.
My motto is.. women do not want to be picked up. It’s a really shitty feeling for both her and you, as you are not coming from a place of internal self-expression, but instead from your mental pick-up notes.. aiming to acquire the pussy, desperately forcing yourself to come across as "cool" as possible in every situation.

« Les moyens qui font qu'une poignée de personnes réussissent, et qu'ils finissent par ne plus dépendre de lui, tirant de nouvelles conclusions et agrandissant leur savoir. Le Manuel n'est qu'un automate, un robot, pour répondre aux questions des newbies.
Le but final de la séduction, et la clé du succès consiste à ce que tout ça devienne naturel. Quand tout devient naturel, tu n'as plus besoin de Manuel, et tu peux gérer toutes les situations qui se présenteront à toi avec les femmes. »

Merci, mais bon NC, date toussa toussa c'est useless si à la fin ça ne FC pas #Tulpa

Tulpa dit :
J'ai toujours pas ma réponse sur "combien de FC en combien de mois"

On retombe toujours sur la question dont les hardcore pua ninja esquive la réponse . Si ces bouquins et la pratique "hardcore" sont si efficace pourquoi aucuns des pratiquants "hardcores" n'a un score qui n'est pas dépassé par le mec bien dans ses pompes et queutard lambda ?

Pourquoi des scores si misérables venant des "professionels" qui t'expliques "les phases d'approches" sur trentes pages"